Kobe 'doesn't care' about the NBA GOAT debate - Stephen A. | First Take

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  • Ajoutée 20 mars 2019
  • Stephen A. Smith and Max Kellerman react to Kobe Bryant's exclusive sit down with Mike Greenberg on the current state of the Los Angeles Lakers and more. Kobe also admits he doesn't care about the GOAT debate between NBA greats like LeBron James, Michael Jordan and others, because he's simply "moved on."
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  • Jon Icehouse
    Jon Icehouse Il y a 22 heures

    THIS DEBATE IS FUCKING STUPID... THIS IS TV PEOPLE THERE HAS TO BE AN OPPOSING ARGUMENT OR ESPN HAS NO FUCKING SHOW ANYBODY WHO ACTUALLY WATCHED BASKETBALL KNOWS WHO THE GREATER PLAYER WAS IT SHOWED EVERYTIME THEY PLAYED EACH OTHER

  • Jon Icehouse
    Jon Icehouse Il y a 22 heures

    The real GOAT dont need no damn co-signers

  • Jon Icehouse
    Jon Icehouse Il y a 22 heures

    The real GOAT dont need no damn co-signers

  • joe chrow
    joe chrow Il y a jour

    Kobe played in the League for like "20" years and won "1" regular season MVP....Great player but you were NOT the GOAT sir....You also was a TERRIBLE TERRIBLE leader...

  • Hop Off
    Hop Off Il y a 6 jours +1

    I’d take LeBron, but most players who faced both, choose Kobe, so black mamba it is🐍

  • Hash Moncrief
    Hash Moncrief Il y a 7 jours

    Kobe don't care, he knows he's great, he don't care what anybody thinks about him, that what's makes him great, anybody that knocks Kobe Bryant says he's not a great basketball player, they're just jealous of Kobe's greatness, now just deal with it, and change your diaper

  • Vanessa Arauz
    Vanessa Arauz Il y a 11 jours

    Mamba is a snake, mock my words, he will be a coach or operations manager

  • Account 2019
    Account 2019 Il y a 15 jours

    Why the hell wouldn't you care??? C'mon Kobe

  • Lee Unagi
    Lee Unagi Il y a 20 jours

    Stephen "Fuckin' A" talking shit again. Kobe is a liar. He cares. And he thinks HE IS THE GOAT. Stop selling us BS stupid ESPN!

  • RJ CANILANG
    RJ CANILANG Il y a 20 jours

    I hate you SAS! You're nonsense

  • Justin Bruner
    Justin Bruner Il y a 21 jour

    Reading comments.....How does Lebron James never play defense when he is a 5× all defensive first team? 2009 came in 2nd for DPOY and the cavs won 66 games.

  • Sammy Monteclaro
    Sammy Monteclaro Il y a 21 jour

    what really the Meaning of Michael 2.0. it means the mentality of playing the ball in the court. Michael is the 1st GOAT. Kobe come as 2.0 being 2nd GOAT of the NBA. Never Talk about Lebron in the GOAT thing watch this first
    frclip.com/video/LJsePvalAHM/vid%C3%A9o.html

  • James Brown
    James Brown Il y a 22 jours

    LeBron James over Kobe you a kid or a dumbass

  • Namsatasman
    Namsatasman Il y a 22 jours

    Lol how do these guys even have a job doing this whack shit

  • Keyshawn Pascheal
    Keyshawn Pascheal Il y a 22 jours

    Sports shows always have two sides. I don’t believe they even believe the side they are defending

  • Hiroomi Nase
    Hiroomi Nase Il y a 23 jours

    Everybody here hating players while I'm here taking in the bad calls of the refs.

  • Craig Royce
    Craig Royce Il y a 23 jours

    Idc about the goat debate neither kobe is and will always be my favorite athlete of all time and as an objective honest fan I can admit Jordan is greater but people need to stop lying kobe is just as skilled as any player if not the most skilled player I've ever seen live and on tv anything Jordan can do SKILL WISE kobe can do and make it look sexier lol he was an artist he wasn't obsessed with statistics because once upon a time we didn't judge players based on stats he just wanted to win and that got him 5 out of 7 rings

  • tyrone loki
    tyrone loki Il y a 24 jours

    You know why lebron will never be the GOAT....very simple, HE FLOPS...PERIOD...you cannot sit there and tell me.he is the greatest when he is a flopper LOL

  • proplayaa1
    proplayaa1 Il y a 24 jours

    Kobe is MY Goat.

  • Tony Stank
    Tony Stank Il y a 24 jours

    I'm tired of people saying Shaq carried Kobe, how when this man averaged damn near identical numbers to Shaq in all their Finals games together.

  • Joseph Moya
    Joseph Moya Il y a 25 jours

    Lebron is a beast! He's much bigger and stronger, so he should plow through players. Kobe was smaller, he used leverage. Both of these dudes are great players, both can play the game. Jordan is the best of his time. Kobe is the best of his time. Lebron is great, but Durant/Westbrook/Curry are right up there with him. You see, when Kobe played, there wasn't anyone to really compare to him with. It was always a Kobe vs Jordan type conversation. Durant/Westbrook/Curry/James were never part of that conversation when Kobe was playing. Everyone sort of already knew they were witnessing history when they watched him play. However, I don't know squat about football, so..

  • Dusts Dusts
    Dusts Dusts Il y a 25 jours

    No way can lebron be like kobe. You should watch lebrons plays vs kobes. Kobe is an all around scorer. Bad thing about lebron he cant do post ups and one on one. Hes stronger than kobe but even a small guard or point guard can guard him in the paint or outside the paint. Lebron likes to flop its not what a high lvl legend player does. Most of kobes 3 points are contested why coz they know its gonna go in.

  • Da'Chase Williams
    Da'Chase Williams Il y a 25 jours

    If Y’all can say Lebron’s better than Jordan then Kobe is better than all of em

  • Diskubre Channel
    Diskubre Channel Il y a 26 jours

    Kobe has shutdown stars in his era like AI, Tmac, Carter, Garnett, Allen and a lot more
    What LBJ did in his era? he joined the stars.
    Only Kobe and MJ for me

  • The art of competition
    The art of competition Il y a 26 jours

    actually you might say kobe had it cushier than lebron, he had the best franchise of all time, the best coach of all time debatebly the best center of all time debatably at a very young age. that first lakers team could have won three rings without kobe. he really earned the second two rings imo however.

  • Marlavine 35
    Marlavine 35 Il y a 27 jours +1

    1 week later...

  • Dokta B
    Dokta B Il y a 27 jours

    Why do people say because Kobe wore 24 he was trying to be like Jordan when he wore 8 first. Lebron wears 23 and when he fist came in the league everyone was saying he wasnt trying to be like Jordan, he was doing it his own way. Now he trying to be like Jordan. come on now. Plus why does everyone say Lebron is a 4-5 way player when Lebron cant play in the post at all especially against bigger better defensive players. Lebron on posts up people way smaller than him. And even then he always fades away.

  • Tigga_Flex1 #BRzone
    Tigga_Flex1 #BRzone Il y a 28 jours

    Kobe and Jordan is better than labron hands down

  • Lee Humbert
    Lee Humbert Il y a 28 jours

    Max haiting ass

  • Martin Lorenzo
    Martin Lorenzo Il y a 28 jours

    STOP GURGLING LEBRONS BALLS PEG KELLERMAN

  • Peace on Earth
    Peace on Earth Il y a 28 jours

    This may be the best reel I’ve seen of all tiine. Everyone please watch this and then form your opinion. Highlights start @2:50 mark.
    frclip.com/video/hE9edTgkeuI/vid%C3%A9o.html
    OMG. How soon we’ve forgotten. No more Jordan comparisons. This man was in a league of his own.

  • Mr Barbados from birth One love

    Mamba most skilled player....yesss?

  • Jay Money
    Jay Money Il y a 29 jours

    Jordan answered Magics 5 rings with 6. LeBron answered Kobes 5 rings with 3...

  • Aarón Ríos Muñoz
    Aarón Ríos Muñoz Il y a 29 jours

    Why you have in the program this guy from HBO Box, he do not know nothing about Basketball, only S A have a point.

  • Clash with suman
    Clash with suman Il y a 29 jours +2

    Mamba did better than original 🔥🔥🔥 GOAT in skills

  • Tyson Chicken
    Tyson Chicken Il y a mois

    This Kobe vs Lebron thing has been getting heated lately

  • Young Humble
    Young Humble Il y a mois

    Fuck Jordan bald head ass
    Fuck LeBron bitch ass
    Kobe the goat 🐐 🐐 💪

  • Justin Asante
    Justin Asante Il y a mois

    Neither should we, what tf does it matter

  • Ice Fury, Director of Shield

    Why does Molly never contribute to these conversations??

  • mark spannar
    mark spannar Il y a mois +1

    Kobe is a goat on raping girls.

  • Shank Bhardwaj
    Shank Bhardwaj Il y a mois +1

    He shouldn't cause he was never part of that debate

  • Rod Buycks
    Rod Buycks Il y a mois

    Did Max just say "health" after SAS sneezed!?😂😂 interesting....

  • NEW YORK
    NEW YORK Il y a mois

    OLD people .. ugh!!
    (stay in your lane)

  • Luke Starbinski
    Luke Starbinski Il y a mois

    Brons the goat

  • Timothy Jacobs
    Timothy Jacobs Il y a mois

    Hate to say, but Max is spot on...

    we all respect Kobe's approach to the game and his 'mamba mentality', but the fact is, we dont think he's the goat because what he's done....WE HAVE ALREADY SEEN..ONLY BETTER IN MJ!

    carbon copies never get the same love and recognition as the original! **shrug**

  • charlolbj23
    charlolbj23 Il y a mois

    kobe isnt worried about the goat debate because he was never in the debate to begin with. there are certain skills and achievements that lebron has over jordan, but there is NOTHING kobe has over jordan. he’s just a poor man’s MJ, a little worse in every single aspect

  • kfc667
    kfc667 Il y a mois

    Kobe is obviously a better player than LeBron, the arguments are idiotic. It's so disrespectful for ESPN to completely bypass Kobe's name during their MJ & LeBron comparisons

  • Polo Shawty
    Polo Shawty Il y a mois

    Nobody never talks about Tim Duncan

  • Thanet Phoumsavanh
    Thanet Phoumsavanh Il y a mois

    4:43 Jordan and Magic had a baby
    So gay

  • Joey Gatsby
    Joey Gatsby Il y a mois

    It’s like molly asks a question, Steven A answers it and then Max says his own thing lol

  • Akil White
    Akil White Il y a mois

    Kobe The Greatest

  • Akil White
    Akil White Il y a mois

    Bron playing with tellitubies no real love for the game no more it's not felt like it use to be.
    Kobe 5 in the west
    Jordan 6 in the east

  • John Johns
    John Johns Il y a mois +3

    Kobe dont care about the "goat" debate because he's not in it

  • Bearded/Hemi Dean
    Bearded/Hemi Dean Il y a mois +2

    Kobe Bryant 5 times 5 times 5 times 5 times 5 times champion Lakers Legend

  • Bearded/Hemi Dean
    Bearded/Hemi Dean Il y a mois

    Kobe Bryant is Greatness

  • Javier Cano
    Javier Cano Il y a mois

    Lmao Kobe's just saying that because he knows nobody is mentioning him in that conversation outside of Kobe stans.

  • WuzohHitsBills
    WuzohHitsBills Il y a mois +4

    kobe was also robbed AT LEAST 1 mvp

  • marvin sanders
    marvin sanders Il y a mois

    i think the Lakers team want the King to look bad get rid of all of them nbs

  • Jeremy Teves
    Jeremy Teves Il y a mois

    Kobe is the 🐐

  • calgaryian
    calgaryian Il y a mois +1

    I settled the goat debate for myself years ago when I considered which one player in their prime from any era would I select first if I were drafting an All Time Greatest NBA Team to play against someone else's All Time Greatest NBA Team, and once that player was picked the other person couldn't select him too. If I head the first overall pick my choice was and still would be Michael Jordan.

    • calgaryian
      calgaryian Il y a mois

      If we are talking All Time Greatest NHL Team, as much as it pains me to say this as a Flames fan, my first overall pick would be Wayne Gretzky.

  • Pranay
    Pranay Il y a mois +1

    Lebron is great, he has done a lot outside the court for future NBA player contracts and stars, but he screwed up too many times to compare to MJ or kobe. Every single youtube comment on any video about Lebron's 'greatness', especially when compared to kobe, sides with kobe, because for general NBA fans he isn't on the MJ level. That's just how it will always be, so good luck media with all the try-hard arguments about Lebron's performance on the court.

  • 19 gt ghost
    19 gt ghost Il y a mois

    Kobe cares about everything.

  • Moises Galaz
    Moises Galaz Il y a mois

    Mamba Mentality. The Man had no quit.

  • DJ ALLDAY
    DJ ALLDAY Il y a mois

    ***** NO LEBRON G.O.A.T. TALK HERE **** He got to finish & have a career stronger than this TOP 10 list
    1. Bill Russel
    2. Wilt Chamberlain
    3. Micheal Jordan
    4. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
    5. Kobe Bryant
    5. Larry Bird
    6. Shaquille O'Neal
    7. Earvin "Magic" Johnson
    8. Earl Monroe / Oscar Robinson
    9. Julius Erving
    10. Tim Duncan

  • corkystorky
    corkystorky Il y a mois

    The NBA logo, Jerry West, was 1-9 in terms of championships, Lebron got 3 out of 9, had to form the super cHeat team to do the first. This is also the battle of generations, we see the old schools how they played, before the dominance of the black players. The 80s and 90s showcased us to a brutal type of defense and Central presence. The new boys got elevated skills in terms of progress of international players. They have improved and innovated skill sets, but that did not translate or secure championships. The Jordan era saw both ends, been through it as well, as the old Jordan continued to put the fans in awe how he continued to dominate prime superstars, which Lebron faced in the early stage of his career. But then the post Jordan era classmates won championships: old Duncan and old Dirk Nowitzki against the super cHeat team. Then those guys are gone or way past their primes, then came steph curry and the soft defense league and the sharpshooters. Lebron is getting old, soon he cannot catch up with young talents: Oladipo, Mitchell, even Zion Williamson who shall come soon... the trip to the Finals had long gone. He can't keep up with defense to preserve energy for offense. But if we just focus on the vacuum of continuum where Lebron could be among the greats, he will be there, he will be great in the eyes of the millenials because they're proud to have him represent their era. It's fans who's trying to change the narratives for that matter. Pre-nba jordan won olympic gold and beyond, but lebron lost his first attempt when he was surrounded by superstars. It's the previous eras that will tell a more accurate narrative, when we witnessed pure basketball, era when it was called a man's game. There was Jordan-Kobe, then Kobe-Lebron, with Kobe tasting both, he is dismissing the chance to talk about GOAT because it disrespects him, because it's clear as daylight he is not in the discussion of GOAT, but as food taster. For him it must only be 'who is better, Jordan or Kobe' and 'who is better, Lebron or Kobe'. I can speak as fan, Phil Jackson can speak as a coach, Marv Albert can speak as a commentator, but Kobe was a player who collided with them, he is in the best position to tell which is which, but then, since he is being disrespected, he now refuses to speak about GOAT. Max had a slip up there, Jordan better than Kobe and Kobe better than Lebron. And you'll notice that he changed tone because he realized something went wrong in his narrative. He is there to be a democrat for Lebron at all cost, but remember the slip, the truth will always have a chance to poke it's head in the gutter once in a while.

  • Coleen Myel
    Coleen Myel Il y a mois +1

    Wanna know the differences of MJ-Kobe-Lebron views about the GOAT topic? Read this:
    MJ: "I don't want it in a sense because I think it disrespects Wilt Chamberlain, Jerry West -- you know all the guys that prior to me I never had a chance to play against,". I would never say that I am the greatest player. That's because I never played against all the people that represented the league prior to Michael Jordan."
    Kobe Bryant: “It’s hard for people to believe, but I really don’t care,”... “I’ve moved on. “The best way to explain it is I typically do not engage in things that I cannot definitively win.” argue for what?
    Le3-6ron James: "That one right there made me THE greatest player of all-time,"
    (when cavs beat the 73-9 GSW no Durant yet) "That's what I felt."..
    "Everybody was just talking about how [the Warriors] were the greatest team of all-time,
    like, it was the greatest team ever assembled.
    For us to come back the way we came back in that fashion, I was, like, 'You did something special."

    “When you're good at something, you'll tell everyone. When you're great at something, they'll tell you.”
    ― Walter Payton (A Legend in NFL)

    • Bearstown19 Show
      Bearstown19 Show Il y a mois

      Walter Payton is babe ruth of Chicago!, Payton is NFL GOAT!,

  • Ryon Bachanlal
    Ryon Bachanlal Il y a mois

    LeGoat already claimed it.

  • Henny God
    Henny God Il y a mois

    No shit he doesn't. He's retired..Like what else is he gonna do? Lmao

  • Arthur.p x
    Arthur.p x Il y a mois

    LBJ won three championships in the East, but he has nine Finals experience!Now, he has come to the west, where there are more strong teams. I don't think he can enter the Western Conference finals before the end of his career.

  • Robert Beltran
    Robert Beltran Il y a mois

    The MJ-Lebron debate was manufactured by KLUTCH sports through the media. If you ask most fans and people who played in the league, they get upset that Kobe is bypassed by this people in the media like Max, Nick Wright and Shannon Sharpe.

  • gamerz skillz
    gamerz skillz Il y a mois

    He doesn't care cuz hes not in the conversation, but I do agree championship wise hes smarter and better than lebron.

  • Kevin Kim
    Kevin Kim Il y a mois

    There is no such thing as the GOAT.

  • Gurpreet Pottiwal
    Gurpreet Pottiwal Il y a mois

    No, he does.

  • Renz Alfie Fernandez
    Renz Alfie Fernandez Il y a mois

    Kobe is the best.. thats all baby

  • Barbara Tiengco Otot
    Barbara Tiengco Otot Il y a mois

    Max Kellerman
    Nick Wright
    Shannon Sharpe
    Chris Broussard
    Ryan Hollins
    Dahntay Jones
    And Of course LBJ's Toughest Ass Licker
    The one and Only Colin Cowherd.
    LBJ's excuse team and hype team. They will degrade others or the era itself just to make LBJ's legacy great. 95% of the LBJ's topic they spoke about is all lies and ironically that is facts right there!

  • Big Balls
    Big Balls Il y a mois

    Max Kellerman wtf???

  • solephonic
    solephonic Il y a mois

    i swear these sports pundits are wrong on their assessments and predictions 95 percent of the time...and that's being generous.

  • Kevin Thomas
    Kevin Thomas Il y a mois +2

    Kobe that dude ..period

  • 2 PAC
    2 PAC Il y a mois

    I seriously want to fucking RIP MAX HEAD OFF ALWAYS TELLING STORIES JUST GET TO THE FUCKING POINT

  • T. Mojito
    T. Mojito Il y a mois

    Max, you think Lebron did something new? Was MJ just doing the same old thing? he never innovated or changed anything? I respectfully disagree. Lebron really didn't do anything "new" aside from maybe giving birth to the super team.. in Miami.. the decision.. Mike lost for 7 years before winning his first title. He didn't decide to go play with Ewing or Barkley.. he smashed them.

  • Pallas Athena
    Pallas Athena Il y a mois

    Kobe is better than LeBron, media doesn't recognize they are responsible for LeBron being regarded where he does, NOT LeBron's play or accolades

  • Fabio Barroso
    Fabio Barroso Il y a mois

    Why this guy screams so much?

  • Burngag Apostol
    Burngag Apostol Il y a mois

    Why he would care about that. Because he also a GOAT

  • jovanz sayson
    jovanz sayson Il y a mois

    No GOAT. Because they are not played all the time. Fact

  • dat bmore nigga wit dreams

    Kobe my goat. Fuk everybody else u mention

  • Amir Hassan
    Amir Hassan Il y a mois

    Leblocked better praise the lord for GP Ray Allen and Kyrie then Kobe for two gold medals and guarding the world’s other countries best player because him d wade iverson Duncan etc got two bronze medals before Kobe got on team USA 12 Times All defensive teams, who does that and drop 40 in everybody

  • Mr Hater
    Mr Hater Il y a mois

    LeBron is better at:
    -Stats
    -Dunks
    -Three point shooting (in Kobe's era the three point shooting wasn't that important tho and the difference it's not really that much)
    -Playmaking
    -Post shooting
    -Being clutch
    -Not getting injured (not this year tho)
    -"PLAYOFF MODE"
    Kobe is better at:
    -Scoring
    -Winning
    -Mid range shooting
    -Free throw shooting
    -Ball Handling
    -Isolation
    -Being clutch *when it really matters*
    -Defense
    -Being savage
    -Trash talking (this is really important bois, basketball is better with some trash talking)
    -"MAMBA MENTALITY"
    8 vs 11= Kobe is better

  • Daniel Ridore
    Daniel Ridore Il y a mois

    Kobe’s busy winning Oscars and writing and creating sports academy’s. I think he’s enjoying what he’s doing now after retirement. A lot of those retired guys aren’t doing what Kobe is and are stuck on their glory days.

  • Wis Dom
    Wis Dom Il y a mois +1

    Lebron's Journey = An Elevator
    Kobe's Journey = A Flight of Stairs.
    Jordan's Jorney = Mt Everest.

    That's what separates the fan kids shouting numbers to the actual legends who know the game of basketball.

  • citizenghosttown
    citizenghosttown Il y a mois

    What is Stephen A even talking about? Max has the better of this one. It's not surprising that Kobe isn't interested in the GOAT debate. He's not really part of it.

  • Jasmine Carter
    Jasmine Carter Il y a mois

    Just for men doesn't cost a lot Max. Go to CVS stat. Please.

  • Sam/u/raj
    Sam/u/raj Il y a mois

    To say that James is better than Kobe is just stupid, only retarded people will say that.

  • Enter At Your Own Risk

    I'm rolling with my man Kobe over everybody, over the entire field & there's nothing anyone can say to convince me otherwise! I've been watching hoop since 84 & seen all the greats play from that time on & Kobe is the most skilled offensive player I've ever seen play! There has never been anyone Kobe played against who was more skilled then Kobe or had a mental edge over the Mamba....

  • Gevorg Matevosyan
    Gevorg Matevosyan Il y a mois

    Kobe is far far better y’all can ask from the best MJ stop hating it’s not healthy.

  • Cris S
    Cris S Il y a mois

    This is a dumb conversation.

  • VT
    VT Il y a mois

    Max you don't know shit about bball. You barely have an idea about boxing. Lebron is a good player, but he is not and never will be better than Kobe. Ever.

  • Aaron Attias
    Aaron Attias Il y a mois

    A real goat knows it’s a pointless debate

  • SPORTZ FORTUNE TELLER
    SPORTZ FORTUNE TELLER Il y a mois

    THE GOLDEN STATE WARRIORS WILL WIN THE NEXT 5 CHAMPIONSHIPS 🔮

  • SPORTZ FORTUNE TELLER
    SPORTZ FORTUNE TELLER Il y a mois

    STEPHEN CURRY IS THE GREATEST PLAYER OF ALL TIME 🏆

  • kyle albano
    kyle albano Il y a mois

    I would take kobe over LeBron any day. LeBron can’t even shot free throws this season. As big as he is he ain’t driving to the hoop and shooting more threes this year.