Stephen A. congratulates LeBron on being the 2nd-greatest NBA player ever | First Take
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- Ajoutée 20 nov. 2019
- Stephen A. Smith refuses to concede that LeBron James is the greatest ever, naming Michael Jordan to the top spot.
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Jordan has the best legacy, making him the "greatest" of all time. He also changed the NBA in ways that arent possible anymore today.
BUT.. Lebron is the "best" basketball player of all time. Lebrons all around skill has never been seen. His combination of speed, size, strength, scoring, passing, durability, longevity, IQ and just total mass of stats as well as consistent trips to the playoffs/finals. Ive got MJ as my "GOAT," but Lebron as my "BOAT." 😂
People Clearly don't understand.
LeBron is 3-6 in the playoffs
but how are you going to blame LeBron for his record? Take 2017-2018 Finals LeBron had literally been tirelessly working through 1-3rd rounds and then has to face the most OP team in the NBA. Or how about 2014-2015 when both Kyrie and Kevin Love were injured and LeBron still managed to take Warriors to 6 games by himself. Now there are a couple Final appearances where LeBron had no excuse for losing. But you guys blatantly bring up LeBron's Playoffs record when comparing him to Jordan. Jordan had a good team behind him everytime he was in the Playoffs or have you guys forgot he couldn't get in it until Scottie Pippen joined? Even LeBron was getting into the playoffs even with no other good players so OF COURSE his record is gonna be worse.
LeBron doesn't score as much as Jordan because he's no doubt a better passer than Jordan. LeBron is a better rebounder than Jordan. Physically and Mentally LeBron is Better
But Athletically, Defensively, and Offensively Jordan is Better.
Simple, who has more rings?
If it's about rings give it to bill Russel smh
So MJ lead the league in scoring 10 times, made all-defensive team 9 times (by the way that's tied with GP for the most all time), and even lead the league in steals 3 times, but LeBron is the better overall player? I'm not even factoring in the rings. MJ was both the best offensive AND the best defensive player when he stepped on the court. But LeBron is the better overall player???? I respect LeBron's game but WHAT?????
after 6 months of research I have found that MJ is better then LJ if we measure by about 90% of all metrics.
Congrats to Stephen A on getting paid a whole lot of money for butchering the English language. FOH
No no no. Wilt and Kareem are better. And Bill Russell has 11 rings and 5 MVPs. He prolly would've had 7 FMVPs if they existed in his time. And I think Magic was better too.
Stephen A confirms delonte west basically
MJ the greatest brand, not the greatest player. That honor goes to Kareem Abdul Jabbar. Nobody got his resume, including MJ and LeBron.
When some says MJ the goat: Ok Boomer
I think LeBron is gona be the Goat Fight me
I can’t take this conversation seriously because it’s all gonna be about who you grew up watching, people in the 80s-90s era gonna stick with Jordan no matter what, people in the 70s gonna stick with Kareem people in the 60s gonna stick with wilt or bill and people in the 2000s, 2010s gonna stick with lebron that’s how it is 🤷🏻♂️
@Jay no lol its Mj>Kobe>Lebron
Lestrq but we always say lebron is the best
Lestrq everyone says Kobe is top 5-10
Lestrq nope that’s not true
People of 2000's will say kobe is best.
NEVA EVA EVA EVA EVA IN LIFE.......but second is good enough.....for this era.....😉
Basketball was way different back in the day. You couldn’t take 3 steps to shoot, it was more aggressive, and they actually played defense. The stats with Jordan are slightly worse because Lebron is in an era where the NBA wants to see more points so basically it’s where if you play defense it’s a foul. MJ will be the greatest player to ever live for a while.
Saying Jordan best the Magic Johnson and the Lakers is misleading. The second best player on that team was james worth and Magic was getting towards the end of his career. The competition that Lebron has played in the finals is far greater than jordans in my opinion
It's the same thing with Brady and Trout. Too many people just want to believe they are watching the greatest right now.
Media always downplaying Kobes legacy
Kareem is the best ever
Stephen A if Lebron wins the next 3 chips with 3 finals MVPs and a 1 regular szn MVP you’re still not naming him the greatest?
LeBron is the GOAT/KOAT. PERIOD
Max always has to talk rubbish if you talk about the greatest running backs ever you talk about brown or Sanders not Smith longevity has nothing to do with it
with 3 chips?
Jordan was 6-0 cause he played in the harder conference. He either got knocked out by the pistons or had easy team from the west to beat in the finals. Lebron has been the exact opposite. His path to finals has always been easy that’s why he’s been in so many but the actual NBA finals he usually plays a juggernaut spurs or warriors team
Micheal Jordan is 1-9 in the playoffs without Pippen. Someone give Pippen the credit he deserves
@Thomas Lake do you remember Jordan in Washington? That's worse then anything LeBron has ever done. No cap
K, Love The NBA lebron didn’t make the playoffs the first two seasons. That’s worse and he missed last year as well. I have seen other players with way more harsh injuries than a groin and carry their team to the playoffs. Lebron never got injured that’s his true gift he is a rare specimen. People actually find it insulting that they are saying lebron is the 2nd greatest of all time! Kareem,lebron, and Kobe are in the tier of debatable goats but my is another level.
I just think lebrons not very likeable
I think that the other guy did it better.
Stephen and Max are so on their knees to Jordan. They constantly omit the ONLY reason Jordan got to the finals was because BIRD got old. Boston and the Pistons sent Jordan home every year. How many playoff series did Jordan lose?? They never mention that in their commentary EVER!! I’m not saying Jordan was dominant. What I’m saying is Stephen A always bring up the 2 situation LBJ coming up short. While omitting all those years Jordan was getting bumped and sent fishing early. For the record IMO Wilt was the best player ever. Boston had the best teams back then. They changed the game to make it harder for Wilt. Where the changed it to make it easier for Jordan. Mike drop!!!
Michael Jordan Still Number 1 in my book I Agree his Behind Jordan MJ was God Sent Player
They act like Micheal Jordan never lost a playoff series LOL. It’s Mike. I get it. But ya can’t rewrite history. When he didn’t have a squad, he lost, just like everyone else
if u want to know who is the greatest NBA player of all time, all u have to do is go to the NBA records book and i belief is 82 records and see who owns like 74 of them!!! thats right WILT CHAMBLIEN
lbj and sas same hairline on the thumbnail 😁😁😁
Lebron beat spurs went against Kobe not in playoffs and beat warriors etc Jordan played lot less players and team full hall fame players
What happened to Kobe?
It comes down to physics:
Velocity vs Volume. Which ever one you prefer is who you’ll say the greatest is.
Blah blah blah blah!!! LeBron James is not the second greatest player in the world... not even top 10!!
Jordan played for a great organisation coach and team mates compare to Lebron. In a way Jordan had an advantage in his career. Don’t forget Jordan had Pippen the best defender of all time.
Wow, thats your best? Jordan stayed in one place to build a good organization. Zero championships before Jordan. Jordan had more def awards and stats than Pippen. Lebum has been choosing his teams for years and still cant beat good teams that actually play a system. You listed Pippen for Jordan but forgot to list all of the all-stars that lebum has had. Wade, Bosh, Love, Irving and so on. Magic Johnson went to 9 finals and won 5 in 13 years. Hes more clutch than lechoke.
First take really be disrespect Kobe like he wasn’t a bucket
What dynasty did mike play against in the championship rd of the playoffs??? Lebron the G.O.A.T, flat out!
When your first statement is "I will never concede that", then I can't take you serious. If you would never concede it, then you're not truly objective. The better statement would be not yet...
El mejor el goat Michael jordan
Anything in LA, anything related to a popular topic is overrated, most of the time.
Steven a is over rated trash
Tbh this is only watchable bcs of max and stephen A every other Analyst on espn sucks
The mofos gonna stop disrespecting Wilt Chamberlain. The best team wins rings. NOW THE BEST PLAYER. just go to the record books. No disrespect to any other greats. Magic Jordan bird russel kareem hakeem. It's WILT ALL DAY
@Eyem Dunn one series? Good for Kareem.
Like I said he played who they put out on the court. Check the record books. If theyre better today then do better than Wilt. I'm out
Magic bird Jordan Kareem and Jordan went against tougher competition. No one was really wilt’s height, he mostly went up against a bunch of short white boys. Btw wilt chamberlain got absolutely outplayed and dominated by Kareem in the 1972 WCF, check the stats for yourself.
People's favorite player of all time will always be MJ. But Lebron is the greatest basketball player of all time .
What about the 2 seasons Jordan got bounced out in the first round by Detroit, let's sweep it under the rug don't hold it against him through.
Kareem Abdul Jabar is #1 LeBron is #2
Jordan is the greatest ever and always will be he’s the best ever
Best ever has no end to debate but if you want to put it in order of greatness by they position its...
Pg magic
Sg jordan
Sf lebron
F Tim Duncan
C shaq
Competition matters!!! Its the a main vein of this sport!!!
Lebron is not even my top 5. Not even top ten. Stop trying to boost the leveon narrative. Even the young generations are starting to see the bs. He’s playing hard now cuz he got AD? Lol
Lebron is GOAT to my gen. To me #23 is Lebron obviously to evry gen says different players thts what u watched growing up stfu already 🤦♂️
Jordan is the greatest.
Really? Lebron is better than mike...... the Rings? Ok Bill Russel is the GOAT
But he’s not though.
There is no “greatest” imo there are greatest of each generation. Every 15-20 years there’s a greatest of that time. Reason being, the game has evolved so much that each generation has different challenges
No Sir. I would place Magic Johnson above LeBron all day every day.... They have nothing else to talk about... Sad
Didn’t have the makeup 09 cavaliers 60+ wins without any other stars 07 vs Detroit lol not the killer😂😂😂
Here’s the thing
When lebron retires, they will still talk about him
Just like with Jordan, they still talk about him
You don’t see these guys talk about Kobe day in day out
Fleeting Youth Kobe is not a constant in any of these conversations
I don't think they will talk sbout lebrk
What do you mean Jordan and Kobe are the constant in the conversation 🤷
You don't hear them doing it about Kareem either will they after lebron is gone? Only time will tell but normally you only talk about the greatest
Sadly